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wayneatwerrcc
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Was that really Earth?
Jun 20 2008, 3:55 AM EDT
Was it really Earth that we saw in the mid season cliff hanger? I know this series is much different from the original, but remember Terra. They thought that was Earth too. Or perhaps the fleet needs to enter some sort of alternate universe to find Earth? Maybe, maybe not! Is it my wishful thinking to think that it wasn't or is this a real possibility? What do you think? Do you find this valuable?    
aithendodge

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RE: Was that really Earth?
Jun 21 2008, 3:26 AM EDT
It was Earth. The Manhattan skyline was in the background. At the very end before it fades to black you can see the remnants of what is unmistakenly the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Green-Arrow
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RE: Was that really Earth?
Jun 23 2008, 4:18 PM EDT
I'm not so sure. They did go out of the way to NOT show us anything that would prove it's Earth (like our moon, or a good clear look at the continents). And while the wreckage of the city most certainly did look like Manhattan, I wouldn't say it was definitively so. For one thing, the architecture seemed a little futurist (not unlike Caprica City). And a bridge does not necessarily make it Manhattan.

I thought for sure we were going to get a "Planet of the Apes" shot of the Statue of Liberty, but they held back. My hunch is that yes, it is Earth. But I wouldn't take that for granted just yet. I think they left it deliberately ambiguous.
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LadyJewlz

LadyJewlz
RE: Was that really Earth?
Jun 24 2008, 4:09 PM EDT
"I thought for sure we were going to get a "Planet of the Apes" shot of the Statue of Liberty, but they held back."
I did too!! lol
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dexgal
dexgal
RE: Was that really Earth?
Jun 26 2008, 6:45 PM EDT
"I'm not so sure. They did go out of the way to NOT show us anything that would prove it's Earth (like our moon, or a good clear look at the continents). And while the wreckage of the city most certainly did look like Manhattan, I wouldn't say it was definitively so. For one thing, the architecture seemed a little futurist (not unlike Caprica City). And a bridge does not necessarily make it Manhattan.

I thought for sure we were going to get a "Planet of the Apes" shot of the Statue of Liberty, but they held back. My hunch is that yes, it is Earth. But I wouldn't take that for granted just yet. I think they left it deliberately ambiguous."
I think you're right, but I do like the idea that was mentioned above about time travel/some sort of time warp...
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trinielf82
trinielf82
RE: Was that really Earth?
Jun 27 2008, 10:26 AM EDT
i agree about the ambiguity factor but they had to keep the suspense right? but really i think it is earth but damn if it is....its really depressing!!! Do you find this valuable?    
dexgal
dexgal
RE: Was that really Earth?
Jul 10 2008, 12:31 PM EDT
"i agree about the ambiguity factor but they had to keep the suspense right? but really i think it is earth but damn if it is....its really depressing!!!"
Well, it is indeed depressing, but also maybe a good opportunity for many more story lines...lol!
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Y.Signal

Y.Signal
RE: Was that really Earth?
Jul 20 2008, 12:20 PM EDT
"It was Earth. The Manhattan skyline was in the background. At the very end before it fades to black you can see the remnants of what is unmistakenly the Brooklyn Bridge.
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"unmistakenly"?

If that's Brooklyn, then they've done a poor job regarding the accuracy of how everything looks. Go take a look at a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge on google... then go check that episode again. Neither of them look alike.

Also, that skyline does not match with the amount of land you would see looking across from the western coast of Brooklyn. However, it does match the land seen from the view of Governor's Island's northern coast. It doesn't necessarily have to be New York at all, but if it were, then the geography tells me they landed on Governor's Island.

You don't have to be a New Yorker or New Jersian to be able to tell the difference here. You can see it all with google maps + pictures.

One of the structures that you cannot identify as being in present-day New York is the strange domed building at the bottom right side of the screen when the episode is seconds away from ending
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FreightBoss

FreightBoss
RE: Was that really Earth?
Aug 3 2008, 10:06 AM EDT
No..... When they showed that Starbuck went to Earth you could see North America, and when the fleet went the producers went to great lengths to have large amounts of cloud cover to mask the continents. That was the first place the 13th tribe landed.... The debris looked quite old. It may have been Mars, as that is a hot topic recently, and BSG loves to use things from the headlines, but political commentary has always been a staple in GREAT SciFi..... Do you find this valuable?    
Green-Arrow
Green-Arrow
RE: Was that really Earth?
Aug 4 2008, 12:15 PM EDT
The remnants of the city looked futuristic to me, so if it was Earth, it was likely supposed to be far into Earth's future. Who knows what a future Manhattan might look like? For that matter, it could have been a future Dayton or a future Hamburg or a future Mayberry, for all we know.

And although the debris looked like it had been long abandoned, there were still traces of radiation, weren't there? So it can't have been TOO long since "doomsday" (decades maybe, but not centuries).

Question is, did any of the 13th colony get off the planet alive? And will the BSG gang pursue them, or try to settle/reclaim this planet?
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silversurf4
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RE: Was that really Earth?
Sep 20 2008, 12:31 PM EDT
""unmistakenly"?

If that's Brooklyn, then they've done a poor job regarding the accuracy of how everything looks. Go take a look at a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge on google... then go check that episode again. Neither of them look alike.

Also, that skyline does not match with the amount of land you would see looking across from the western coast of Brooklyn. However, it does match the land seen from the view of Governor's Island's northern coast. It doesn't necessarily have to be New York at all, but if it were, then the geography tells me they landed on Governor's Island.

You don't have to be a New Yorker or New Jersian to be able to tell the difference here. You can see it all with google maps + pictures.

One of the structures that you cannot identify as being in present-day New York is the strange domed building at the bottom right side of the screen when the episode is seconds away from ending"
I agree this is not NYC skyline and would suppose the domed structure could be the Temple of Aurora that Lee is looking at with Kara at the beginning of the show. What I'm wondering is the second part of the prophecy from the hybrid that Kara conveniently forgets to tell Lee about...."being the harbinger of doom". That bit. It would seem that a civilization so ready to tear itself to shreds internally would hold Adama and Roslin culpable in the most terrible way for failing to find Earth - something most of them did not believe in to start with.

When BSG is at it's strongest, is when they use the parable to shine a bright light on the darkest issues that plague humanity now without preaching to us. Isn't our capacity to self destruct among the most compelling one of those right now? So is the radioactive decay on Earth and utter destruction the most dangerous thing that await the people of the 12 colonies? I think not. I think we'll see the colonist attempt to blame Adama and Roslin - that will be the doom of humanity - but how does it relate to Kara Thrace and Earth?
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cassiopia123

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RE: Was that really Earth?
Oct 17 2008, 2:41 PM EDT
I havn't studied it as closely as you guys, but wasn't it foretold that Roslin would die before they reached Earth? Do you find this valuable?    
baudalair

baudalair
RE: Was that really Earth?
Oct 23 2008, 12:48 PM EDT
No way its earth if it is what was the point of the whole series. They run from nuked home worlds to a nuked earth? Really? if thats the case it the worst kind of Gotchya story telling ever.

If the new series is an anyway related to the original then the planet the landed on is Tera and not Earth and heres why. In the original series the fleet encounters a shuttle with humans that are on the run from Tera which is about to start a Nuke war between its rival governmental powers. Apollo and Starbuck with the help of the Galacitca stop the war and then continue on to Earth.

In this series the war on New Tera is not stopped because the Galactica and crew were on New Caprica. Thus they failed to intercept the shuttle and failed to stop the war. They do however come to Tera as its fate for the Galactica to go there (all this has happend before)

Also they never show its the earth clearly when they land. But here is the big question why would they land at all? The fleet would get into orbit of the "earth" scan the surface to make sure its safe only to discover its an eradiated waste land? And then they saend all the MAIN characters to the surface what for? And if this series is supose to be more realistic then the original what do you think would happen in the fleet if they find out that their fight and flight is pointless?

If it is the real Earth then I'm out. Done from watching this depressing and pointless series with plot holes soooo big you could drive a battlestar through.
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cassiopia123

cassiopia123
RE: Was that really Earth?
Oct 23 2008, 3:30 PM EDT
i think that you're being a little harsh. After all, you've clearly been following it. However, I also would be very disappointed if that were earth. I'm also not sure how I feel about the Ship of Lights resurrecting Starbuck( and possibly Baltar at the beginning on Caprica). Good comments tho Do you find this valuable?    
baudalair

baudalair
RE: Was that really Earth?
Oct 24 2008, 12:56 PM EDT
I really should reread my posts before I put them up, and spell check them like I am doing right now LOL.
I should point out cassiopia123 that I am a fan of the original series and my out look may appear to be a bit biased. However I loved the new series right up to season 3 then well it went all down hill for me after that.
The mini series was fantastic and they we they re imagined the characters was very well thought out, I have had a major issue with the racial cleansing of the series, was there really any reason to make Tigh white or Boomer Asian? The only black character I can remember from the 1st season is the Pimp/Gangster and the Cylon “doctor” two bad guys if I’m wrong please remind me, but I digress.
The people we got to know in the first two seasons are no longer with us. Their personalities are so far removed from who we met I don’t feel connected to any of them. I wish they could just reboot everything after they left New Caprica. Maybe they can turn the last 10 shows around. But that’s just from my own point of view
Like I said I hope that it’s not Earth though it very well may be a depressing thought. The Cylons did have one true god in the original series however who more or less was Satan. I think the beings of light might come back in this series as Human from Earth who are so far advanced then the colonials that they will appear to be god like. None of this would be any more out there then Ron D Mores religious take on BSG.
I could go on for hours about all this.
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